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Ancient gateway and moon theory

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maciu67    354
18 hours ago, Mooagain said:

we see there are four celestial bodys the calendar seems to control

We have only two celestial bodies Moon and sun. Pedestal is a Constant and Cone is Hamlet (Hamlet is part of constant). The Constant is a centre of universe.

18 hours ago, Mooagain said:

Many have speculated that the Gateway is powered by the Moon, based on the appearance of opal gems in the Gorge, but the gems never appear in the other keys

Ancient Gateway is powered by them. They create thid structure to have more power and destroy Ancient Race. They don't want to survivors travels further than to the Forge but Moon want it so let survivors make Key using opal gems.

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__IvoCZE__    6,141
2 hours ago, maciu67 said:

We have only two celestial bodies Moon and sun. Pedestal is a Constant and Cone is Hamlet (Hamlet is part of constant). The Constant is a centre of universe.

There are THREE pieces rotating around the Cone; Moon, XXXX and the Sun is affixed to the pedestal

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maciu67    354
48 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

There are THREE pieces rotating around the Cone; Moon, XXXX and the Sun is affixed to the pedestal

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We have only one Moon and this is representation of Full Moon and New Moon.

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__IvoCZE__    6,141
Just now, maciu67 said:

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Try following the literal branches coming down the the ''moon' dot that has two freaking spheres

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maciu67    354
2 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

Try following the literal branches coming down the the ''moon' dot that has two freaking spheres

I didn't understand. Write this once again.

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__IvoCZE__    6,141
Just now, maciu67 said:

I didn't understand. Write this once again.

there are two spheres at the Hamlet level. one moon and the other one is Unknown

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maciu67    354
5 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

there are two spheres at the Hamlet level. one moon and the other one is Unknown

Constant has only one satellite:

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__IvoCZE__    6,141
Just now, maciu67 said:

Constant has only one satellite:

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You realize that's completely absurd as theres only one moon?

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maciu67    354
2 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

You realize that's completely absurd as theres only one moon?

This represents the phases of the Moon and not the Moon itself.

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__IvoCZE__    6,141
Just now, maciu67 said:

This represents the phases of the Moon and not the Moon itself.

Then may I know why the New Moon is represented by waxing moon?

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maciu67    354
3 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said:

Then may I know why the New Moon is represented by waxing moon?

How would you like it to be presented

We have two phases. First when Moon has power over constant and second when it don't have.

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metallichydra    2,064

or maybe its full moon, half moon, and we just cant see new moon?

during new moon, we can spawn the shadow clockworks. so new moon is the evil moon we cant see.

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maciu67    354
11 minutes ago, metallichydra said:

or maybe its full moon, half moon, and we just cant see new moon?

during new moon, we can spawn the shadow clockworks. so new moon is the evil moon we cant see.

Thanks to you I can present this picture for the third time:

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New moon and full moon is just a phases of Moon. During full moon (and other phases excluding new moon) shadow energy can't embody in Shadow pieces because The Moon is too powerfull. As you can see these are two opposing forces.

19 minutes ago, metallichydra said:

so new moon is the evil moon we cant see.

Despite the fact that we have two opposing forces The Moon is as evil as They are.

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Mooagain    1,498
2 minutes ago, maciu67 said:

Despite the fact that we have two opposing forces The Moon is as evil as They are.

First of all, the horror hound, pengull, and shattered spider belong in the both category, as Maxwell created many creatures of the constant.

Also, how is the "Moon" evil? The "Moon" has done nothing to harm us so far.

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maciu67    354
8 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

First of all, the horror hound, pengull, and shattered spider belong in the both category, as Maxwell created many creatures of the constant.

These creatures are solely the product of the Moon because it has the terrifying ability to create hybrids and reorganize life. The creatures appeared in Constant after the Moon created lunar Island.

12 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

Also, how is the "Moon" evil? The "Moon" has done nothing to harm us so far.

Because Moon is not as chaotic as They and works more gently. The moon is still using Wormwood as an agent, twice tried to possess Woodie and probably killed Wilba's father.

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Mooagain    1,498
9 minutes ago, maciu67 said:

These creatures are solely the product of the Moon because it has the terrifying ability to create hybrids and reorganize life. The creatures appeared in Constant after the Moon created lunar Island.

What? Hounds have been in the game since release, they're not new at all.

10 minutes ago, maciu67 said:

Because Moon is not as chaotic as They and works more gently. The moon is still using Wormwood as an agent, twice tried to possess Woodie and probably killed Wilba's father.

Wormwood as a what? When has Wormwood ever done anything wrong?

When was Woodie possessed? He has a curse, which he has recently learned to control. 

Also, Wilba's father is alive and well, he's right here:

 Pig King

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-Variant    4,791
1 hour ago, Mooagain said:

Also, Wilba's father is alive and well, he's right here:

 Pig King

 

This was never confirmed.

While being the most probable answer, with him coming from Hamlet and all, it still doesn't add up and isn't officially confirmed yet.

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maciu67    354
47 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

What? Hounds have been in the game since release, they're not new at all.

Horror Hounds

47 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

Wormwood as a what? When has Wormwood ever done anything wrong?

Wormwood did nothing wrong. He is the moon scout. Thanks to him Moon can see ruins, Ancien Gateway and Fuelweaver himself. The Moon sees, hears and feels everything that wormwood sees, hears and feels but Wormwood is not aware of this.

47 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

When was Woodie possessed? He has a curse, which he has recently learned to control. 

In real world Woodie of course wasn't turning into werebeaver but he did there something terrible (crime) and he wanted maxwell to help him (this is the reason why Winona knew about him. He just coomit a crime and the newspaper wrote about the disappearance of the criminal). When Maxwell banished him to the Constant Woodie had terrible remorse (He shows he is sensitive when examining butterfly wings and he is also religious). The Moon noticed that and Woodie's remorse embodied into werebeawer curse and lucy (murder weapon) thanks to celestial energy. Moon wanted to have its slave in constant but Woodie was still independend. Another Moon experiment was to create Wormwood. He is still "moon agent" but Moon wasn't satisfied with result. After Celestial Leader created Lunar Island on Constant it was very close to Woodie and was able to trasform him into two new forms using his memories of Canada. But again it failed to make him dependent on its. When Woodie was on Lunar Island The Moon itself told Woodie about cursed idols using celestial altar because Moon does not give up so easily.

47 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

Also, Wilba's father is alive and well, he's right here:

 Pig King

This bulb is not Wilba's father:

He do not turn into werepig during Full Moon

Wilba says about him "TIS TRADER KING"

How Queen Malfalfa can meet him in RoG she was never leaving her city and she had to build science machine, alchemy engine, hogus porkusator and finally Shadow manipulator to build Skyworthy and to travel to Rog. There Sshe had "romantic situation" with semi-inteligent village chief.

This is my theory:

Wilba's father found "third power" which hates both Moon and Them (maybe the embodiment of this force is silver). For thist reason Wilba's father was killed by Moon or Charlie (as shadow queen) but before it he gave her Silver Necklace.

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Mooagain    1,498
2 hours ago, maciu67 said:

Horror Hounds

Maxwell created hounds, and then the "Moon" transforms them.

3 hours ago, maciu67 said:

Wormwood did nothing wrong. He is the moon scout. Thanks to him Moon can see ruins, Ancien Gateway and Fuelweaver himself. The Moon sees, hears and feels everything that wormwood sees, hears and feels but Wormwood is not aware of this.

In real world Woodie of course wasn't turning into werebeaver but he did there something terrible (crime) and he wanted maxwell to help him (this is the reason why Winona knew about him. He just coomit a crime and the newspaper wrote about the disappearance of the criminal). When Maxwell banished him to the Constant Woodie had terrible remorse (He shows he is sensitive when examining butterfly wings and he is also religious). The Moon noticed that and Woodie's remorse embodied into werebeawer curse and lucy (murder weapon) thanks to celestial energy. Moon wanted to have its slave in constant but Woodie was still independend. Another Moon experiment was to create Wormwood. He is still "moon agent" but Moon wasn't satisfied with result. After Celestial Leader created Lunar Island on Constant it was very close to Woodie and was able to trasform him into two new forms using his memories of Canada. But again it failed to make him dependent on its. When Woodie was on Lunar Island The Moon itself told Woodie about cursed idols using celestial altar because Moon does not give up so easily.

Do you have any evidence for any of this?

3 hours ago, maciu67 said:

This bulb is not Wilba's father:

He do not turn into werepig during Full Moon

Wilba says about him "TIS TRADER KING"

How Queen Malfalfa can meet him in RoG she was never leaving her city and she had to build science machine, alchemy engine, hogus porkusator and finally Shadow manipulator to build Skyworthy and to travel to Rog. There Sshe had "romantic situation" with semi-inteligent village chief.

This is my theory:

Wilba's father found "third power" which hates both Moon and Them (maybe the embodiment of this force is silver). For thist reason Wilba's father was killed by Moon or Charlie (as shadow queen) but before it he gave her Silver Necklace.

1. If Wilba's father can get Wilba a silver charm, why can't he get one for himself? It might be in his crown.

2. Wilba most likely never met her father, so she wouldn't recognize him either way.

3. The Pig King vignette says "Legend has it the Pig King and his followers left their home long ago to rule freely in the constant." So they probably all had to leave Hamlet. (Probably due to their curse not being accepted.) Plus, if PK isn't Wilba's father, then wtf is this doing in hamlet?

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Sunset Skye    3,745
3 hours ago, -Variant said:

This was never confirmed.

While being the most probable answer, with him coming from Hamlet and all, it still doesn't add up and isn't officially confirmed yet.

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Wilba has inherited one of her father's more colourful characteristics, namely, she now carries the same curse that inflicts all of her father's family with dreaded werepigism. Also, all of pigkind from Hamlet's town pigs to those of ROG will now recognize her as the king's daughter, and pay her tribute in the form of gifts.

They really couldn't be much clearer than this.

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maciu67    354
11 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

Maxwell created hounds, and then the "Moon" transforms tchem

This is what I ment.

12 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

Do you have any evidence for any of this?

I have something better - my intuition

(Wormwood animation and Joe's quote about Woodie's new forms.)

16 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

1. If Wilba's father can get Wilba a silver charm, why can't he get one for himself? It might be in his crown

I know _ivoCZE_ told you that.

17 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

3. The Pig King vignette says "Legend has it the Pig King and his followers left their home long ago to rule freely in the constant." So they probably all had to leave Hamlet. (Probably due to their curse not being accepted.) Plus, if PK isn't Wilba's father, then wtf is this doing in hamlet?

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This Home is the Forge. True Wilba's father was in RoG and Queen Malfalfa heard about pig king beefalos and werepigs and decided to make this decorations.

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-Variant    4,791
1 hour ago, Sunset Skye said:

Also, all of pigkind from Hamlet's town pigs to those of ROG will now recognize her as the king's daughter, and pay her tribute in the form of gifts.

Aha, something I haven't seen. This does settle it then. 

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broskeet    23
3 hours ago, Mooagain said:

 

1. If Wilba's father can get Wilba a silver charm, why can't he get one for himself? It might be in his crown.

 

I would like to believe that the Pig King we all know and love has an infinite supply of gold, in his stomach, which works the same as silver, preventing him from turning during the full moon. So he still has the curse, but doesn't turn. Because of the gold. In his stomach.

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