[Game Update] - 365655

[JarrettM 1575]

• Reverted update 364722 changes to plant air pressure sensing as they caused issues with waterweed growth and plant "blocked" status.
   

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  Plants and critters that are sensitive to atmosphere pressure check a larger footprint of cells for “safe” air which should make their state more stable.

   

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[Grimgaw 523]

I would question why that change was necessary in first place. Surely it wouldn't increase performance and I didn't see anyone complain that their plants or pufts are 'unstable'. Surely there are other, more pressing issues you guys could be working on. Surely.

[JarrettM 1575]

I'd also like to mention that while we don't have any performance related changes ready for release right now, we definitely are working on it.

[SharraShimada 1211]

19 minutes ago, JarrettM said:

I'd also like to mention that while we don't have any performance related changes ready for release right now, we definitely are working on it.

We believe in your skills. You´ve already done "wonders" with pipe-coding. Do your thing ^^

[Xuhybrid 259]

47 minutes ago, Grimgaw said:

I would question why that change was necessary in first place. Surely it wouldn't increase performance and I didn't see anyone complain that their plants or pufts are 'unstable'. Surely there are other, more pressing issues you guys could be working on. Surely.

While nobody is talking about it as an issue, when small packets of gas float onto a tile like CO2 or natural gas (etc), they stop the plant growing. Even if there's a majority of good air pressure right next to it. I can see room for this feature if maybe it checks one tile above as well and build in an exception for waterweed because it only needs to check one tile.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Xuhybrid

[Lilalaunekuh 888]

I hope the resource list will be changed again [maybe to offer a customizable list] or the change will be reverted.

 

That´s in my eyes one of the most annoying UI changes ...

 

[I dislike the new automation sensor coloring aswell, but that´s cause I would say it doesn´t fit the overall art style.]

[aymanoracle 29]

there is a lag when moving the camera around after yesterday's hot fix

anybody notice the same?

[Mya Katsura 0]

I have crashes (when a dup enter a rocket or when i open schedule windows) since the update, so what can i do ?

[Satyrical364 80]

17 minutes ago, Mya Katsura said:

I have crashes (when a dup enter a rocket or when i open schedule windows) since the update, so what can i do ?

If you use mods perhaps try removing all mods first. Otherwise, submit bug report with save file attached.

[jambell 679]

16 minutes ago, Mya Katsura said:

I have crashes (when a dup enter a rocket or when i open schedule windows) since the update, so what can i do ?

We are currently testing a fix for this!

Thanks for the other feedback everyone, we are reading it

[Mya Katsura 0]

Seems that I fixed the crash for the rocket in my save, deconstruct and rebuild it (every stage, command capsule is not enough)

[Majestix 620]

1 hour ago, Xuhybrid said:

While nobody is talking about it as an issue, when small packets of gas float onto a tile like CO2 or natural gas (etc), they stop the plant growing. Even if there's a majority of good air pressure right next to it. I can see room for this feature if maybe it checks one tile above as well and build in an exception for waterweed because it only needs to check one tile.

There is nothing wrong with attempting such improvements, I just wish they did some testing before rolling out new mechanics.

[Vampenguin 13]

4 minutes ago, Majestix said:

I just wish they did some testing before rolling out new mechanics.

I'm sure the developers have thought of this, but they could revive a beta branch/channel. I'm guessing it may be too much effort or possibly technical limitations in the Steam platform that are preventing them from doing so. Then the community would happily test for them.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Vampenguin

[celest-kn 9]

1 hour ago, aymanoracle said:

there is a lag when moving the camera around after yesterday's hot fix

anybody notice the same?

I've noticed it since 361684 or 359645 and it happens after I reveal a good portion of the map, by dupes, sandbox or backspace in debug.

Edit: is like the camera is stuttering while moving around

I have a q8400 with 8gb ram on w7, what are your specs?

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by celest-kn
Adding info

[zzKratoszz 122]

Good job. Although I was wondering if the extra work needed for a beta branch would be worth it to keep the game feeling stable. You've got the release crowd who have waited for the stability of release and steam forces an update if you want to try and play modded.

[Gurgel 3145]

5 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

I hope the resource list will be changed again [maybe to offer a customizable list] or the change will be reverted.

That´s in my eyes one of the most annoying UI changes ...

I actually like this one, but I wish you could change the size and the status (open, closed) would be saved with the game.

[Squeegee 833]

I almost never look at the resource list so this shrinking down is really good for me

[aymanoracle 29]

7 hours ago, celest-kn said:

I've noticed it since 361684 or 359645 and it happens after I reveal a good portion of the map, by dupes, sandbox or backspace in debug.

Edit: is like the camera is stuttering while moving around

I have a q8400 with 8gb ram on w7, what are your specs?

 

7 hours ago, celest-kn said:

my specs are Intel Quad process at 3.8GHz (4 physical cores 16threads) 32GB ram , NVIDIA 1060 TI 6GB dedicated ram , M2 SSD drive 

so of course i have no issue in my hardware to run the game smoothly

 

[Ambaire 365]

10 hours ago, Vampenguin said:

I'm sure the developers have thought of this, but they could revive a beta branch/channel. I'm guessing it may be too much effort or possibly technical limitations in the Steam platform that are preventing them from doing so. Then the community would happily test for them.

It's called unit testing. You make a map that's full of different stuff that you expect to work correctly, then you load the map and run a custom script that ensures everything is working as expected. The Factorio devs are really good at doing this.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Ambaire

[DreamApart 125]

18 hours ago, Grimgaw said:

I would question why that change was necessary in first place. Surely it wouldn't increase performance and I didn't see anyone complain that their plants or pufts are 'unstable'. Surely there are other, more pressing issues you guys could be working on. Surely.

I guess the plants switching between withered and normal state too frequently might harm the performance.

[kapoff 3]

19 hours ago, JarrettM said:

I'd also like to mention that while we don't have any performance related changes ready for release right now, we definitely are working on it.

Very happy to read this
Thank you Jarrett

[Sasza22 4079]

I lke that they are not afraid to test fairly big changes after release. Gives me hope that some systems like germs or ranching will get some more attention.

[nakomaru 2081]

2 hours ago, DreamApart said:

Surely it wouldn't increase performance and I didn't see anyone complain that their plants or pufts are 'unstable'.

Yep. Given that you can perfectly control the atmosphere in rooms, this was at worst an issue for some people that already had a solution.