Geeris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just by reversing the position of the mouth, we have a good improvement in appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Geeris said: Just by reversing the position of the mouth, we have a good improvement in appearance. I agree but the other visual issues with her hair still remain Check op on the list of animation issues... Her hair cut through her neck when crafting and stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: I agree but the other visual issues with her hair still remain Check op on the list of animation issues... Her hair cut through her neck when crafting and stuff like that For sure! I see that these problems are of error in the positioning of the assets in the animation. Such: I think Klei will fix it soon (I hope so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, FreyaMaluk said: Check op on the list of animation issues... Her hair cut through her neck when crafting and stuff like that This is because of the symbol layers in the dolongaction animation would need to be fixed or a unique one created for Wheeler or use of symbolswap code to put the torso above the hair symbol then it doesn't clip through her torso, that would fix the hair problem with any animations like that, hopefully it gets fixed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Warbucks said: This is because of the symbol layers in the dolongaction animation would need to be fixed or a unique one created for Wheeler or use of symbolswap code to put the torso above the hair symbol then it doesn't clip through her torso, that would fix the hair problem with any animations like that, hopefully it gets fixed . Yeap... I mean this post is not about destroying Wheeler but pointing out in a cohesive way all the errors in her animations due to an extra hair layer... This is not about destroying her... Just fixing the issues.. Which us now surprising when u admit there are issues and u voted no... Do you really thing her smile reflects her personality? Or u just voted before reading what this was about... xD 3 hours ago, Geeris said: For sure! I see that these problems are of error in the positioning of the assets in the animation. Such: I think Klei will fix it soon (I hope so). For sure... I just tried to compile a list as comprehensive as possible for the devs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: Yeap... I mean this post is not about destroying Wheeler but pointing out in a cohesive way all the errors in her animations due to an extra hair layer... This is not about destroying her... Just fixing the issues.. Which us now surprising when u admit there are issues and u voted no... The vote is "DO WE WANT WHEELER'S ART TO CHANGE TO SUIT HER PORTRAIT AND QUOTES?" I voted no because the examples of how she should be changed to look Spoiler On 4/20/2019 at 3:39 AM, FreyaMaluk said: I personally didn't find as appealing as how she looks right now. If the change were something more similar to this Spoiler then I would've voted yes. I do however want the issues with her animations to be fixed such as hair glitching through the torso, ect. 48 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: Do you really thing her smile reflects her personality? Or u just voted before reading what this was about... xD Personally, I like Wheeler's in game art. I wouldn't mind if her current texture was changed then the faces look like she's smiling and maybe slightly messier hair, but changing her skin tone, facial structure, or any other drastic changes I wouldn't personally like it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Warbucks said: The vote is "DO WE WANT WHEELER'S ART TO CHANGE TO SUIT HER PORTRAIT AND QUOTES?" I voted no because the examples of how she should be changed to look Reveal hidden contents I personally didn't find as appealing as how she looks right now. If the change were something more similar to this Reveal hidden contents then I would've voted yes. I do however want the issues with her animations to be fixed such as hair glitching through the torso, ect. Personally, I like Wheeler's in game art. I wouldn't mind if her current texture was changed then the faces look like she's smiling and maybe slightly messier hair, but changing her skin tone, facial structure, or any other drastic changes I wouldn't personally like it .. Those are examples.. The underlying message us asking for a meaningful change to not making her look like a sad person.. Cuz she isnt That last example came a little late to include it and I probs will later when I'm sitting in my pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, FreyaMaluk said: The underlying message us asking for a meaningful change to not making her look like a sad person.. Cuz she isnt Then it would've been better if one of the votes was something like "Yes, I would like Wheeler's face textures to be more smiley" or something instead of showing examples for an overhaul of her texture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Warbucks said: Then it would've been better if one of the votes was something like "Yes, I would like Wheeler's face textures to be more smiley" or something instead of showing examples for an overhaul of her texture . Yeap... I mean I also didn't include an "I don't care" option.. And ik for a fact at least one person voted no cuz doesn't care... But oh well I tried to make the topic as comprehensive as possible.. Those examples are visual help... And tbh her sling tone is weird... She is pink and in the portrait more like tanned.. Which makes more sense cuz she us an adventurer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: The underlying message us asking for a meaningful change to not making her look like a sad person.. Cuz she isnt Well all DS character faces are very neutral looking except for Wilba and Woodlegs. Also, some of the characters may have different facial expressions in their portrait art such as Wes looking sad, Maxwell looking smug/happy, Woodie looking like a crazy person, and Wortox not looking angry, it doesn't mean their face textures should all be changed to reflect their portrait art. 9 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: tbh her sling tone is weird... She is pink and in the portrait more like tanned.. Which makes more sense cuz she us an adventurer Quite a few Don't Starve characters have their portrait art skin color exaggerated it can be seen in some portrait arts. Warly Spoiler (Almost white) Wilba Spoiler (Different shade of pink) Maxwell Spoiler (Skin is completely different color as well as his suit) Anyways, personally like I said I wouldn't mind if Wheeler smiles more in her face textures, but I wouldn't like if her skin color was changed or she looks very different than she does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Warbucks said: Well all DS character faces are very neutral looking except for Wilba and Woodlegs. Also, some of the characters may have different facial expressions in their portrait art such as Wes looking sad, Maxwell looking smug/happy, Woodie looking like a crazy person, and Wortox not looking angry, it doesn't mean their face textures should all be changed to reflect their portrait art. Quite a few Don't Starve characters have their portrait art skin color exaggerated it can be seen in some portrait arts. Warly Reveal hidden contents (Almost white) Wilba Reveal hidden contents (Different shade of pink) Maxwell Reveal hidden contents (Skin is completely different color as well as his suit) But what we are asking is.. And it's in the tittle.. That the changes fit her personality... She is an adventurer... No reason to have pink skin that doesn't fit het She is not depressed.. Look at her mooth from all angles.. Her portrait reflects that... Vs BTW all those characters don't diverge so much from their portraits.. Only one is maybe max.. But in adventure mode u know he isn't really smug... He is pretending to be.. So it makes sense he has a more neutral face expression And Warly looks much better in the game... He reflects what his character is.. Which is the most important aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: She is an adventurer... No reason to have pink skin that doesn't fit het Her skin color isn't pink, it's literally the same color as Warly's skin color. That's just the hamlet color cubes. 13 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: She is not depressed.. Look at her mooth from all angles.. Her portrait reflects that... Like I said, I wouldn't mind if her faces become more smiley, but to be honest she has all rights to look sad! I mean her air balloon crashed into the middle of nowhere and she's all alone stranded trying to survive in a place where everything wants to kill you! Even if I was the most optimistic person in the world I wouldn't really be happy in that situation either ! 13 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: And Warly looks much better in the game... He reflects what his character is.. Which is the most important aspect Then what you would want is for Klei to change the hamlet color cubes because it makes her skin color look pink because even if her skin color was changed Warly is skin color would look pink in hamlet too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Warbucks said: Her skin color isn't pink, it's literally the same color as Warly's skin color. That's just the hamlet color cubes. Like I said, I wouldn't mind if her faces become more smiley, but to be honest she has all rights to look sad! I mean her air balloon crashed into the middle of nowhere and she's all alone stranded trying to survive in a place where everything wants to kill you! Even if I was the most optimistic person in the world I wouldn't really be happy in that situation either ! ? She has a pink color.. That's undeniable.. Lol.. Like Warly She looks pink in RoG too Ok.. We going in circles now u trying to get into another topic that Inst her quote really.. Ty for expanding your position anyways.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FreyaMaluk said: ? She has a pink color.. That's undeniable.. Lol.. Like Warly She looks pink in RoG too Right on the DS wiki in the characters area their character select images literally have the same exact skin color if you open it in an art program and use a color select tool. Her skin color isn't pink, that is all! Good day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warbucks said: Right on the DS wiki in the characters area their character select images literally have the same exact skin color if you open it in an art program and use a color select tool. Her skin color isn't pink, that is all! Good day ! That color isn't her current one.. She looked darker before when she was low res.. I'll be posting her side by side later for comparison with in game screenies.. And they don't have the same skin even in that example.. Warly is darker.. Which makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: That color isn't her current one.. She looked darker before when she was low res.. I'll be posting early and her side by side later for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Warbucks said: So interesting the sprites have emotes expressions too.. I'm still gonna make my own in game comparisons.. To see it for myself... Ty for this tho.. Very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 6:01 PM, Warbucks said: Right on the DS wiki in the characters area their character select images literally have the same exact skin color if you open it in an art program and use a color select tool. Her skin color isn't pink, that is all! Good day ! On 4/22/2019 at 6:03 PM, FreyaMaluk said: That color isn't her current one.. She looked darker before when she was low res.. I'll be posting her side by side later for comparison with in game screenies.. And they don't have the same skin even in that example.. Warly is darker.. Which makes sense This is because sprite colors are different when playing the game rather than looking at them in the files. This is due to color cubes. And the hard part is if you change someone's skin color sprite wise, the color cubes will make it look different in game. But yeah, running it through a paint program shows they almost share the same skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 12:51 PM, Angel_Octoling said: This is because sprite colors are different when playing the game rather than looking at them in the files. This is due to color cubes. And the hard part is if you change someone's skin color sprite wise, the color cubes will make it look different in game. But yeah, running it through a paint program shows they almost share the same skin color. This doesn't undermine the other issues in this thread tho. Sad face weird hair animations I see now the color cube impact on her skin BUT I usually don't have access to the sprites to compare cuz I go from the things I can see ingame and I believe is unfair to assume the devs need me to know to see the sprites to make a valid point that her skin looks pink the game and more tanned in the profile but tbh this is not even the most grave issue. Her sad face needs to get fixed asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedregales Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I think her sprite is fine for the most part. The animations could use some work, but the sad face is fine. All characters look sad, frustrated, or annoyed in-game, with the exception of Woodlegs, Wilba's perpetual smile, and Wormwood and WX's expressionless face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 @ImDaMisterL do I need to post this in the bug tracker too? We haven't really heard anything about the sprite and animation issues.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted April 26, 2019 Developer Share Posted April 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: @ImDaMisterL do I need to post this in the bug tracker too? We haven't really heard anything about the sprite and animation issues.. Actual bugs and glitches are to be reported, like the Wes animation issue up there. Just check the Bug Tracker to make sure someone hasn't reported the issue already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 5:21 PM, FreyaMaluk said: So interesting the sprites have emotes expressions too.. Interesting enough, if you use that emotes mod in the workshop, you can even get them working. Wagstaff's goggles even change with emotes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, oCrapaCreeper said: Interesting enough, if you use that emotes mod in the workshop, you can even get them working. Wagstaff's goggles even change with emotes: Yeap.. Ive seen this mod in action for Wheeler already too.. She CAN laugh omg... Bach to apathetic face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeris Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 11 hours ago, ImDaMisterL said: Actual bugs and glitches are to be reported, like the Wes animation issue up there. Just check the Bug Tracker to make sure someone hasn't reported the issue already Wes's problem was solved a long time ago. It was just an example of an animation bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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