ucw Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, minespatch said: @JoeW Will you do a new trailer to replace the last one? Will it be easy to replace Warbucks's face with wormwood in the poster? He answered this question in a long-ish post earlier in this thread "we will make a new trailer for sure." Edited February 10, 2019 by ucw to correct error 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ucw said: He answered this question in a long-ish post earlier in this thread -- and my brain is not working, but I think he said "no." It was mentioned that they'll make a new trailer for the actual release of Hamlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucw Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, lifetheuniverse said: It was mentioned that they'll make a new trailer for the actual release of Hamlet. thanks -- I checked and fixed it. Should have checked first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleksmits Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Now Wilba runs like mad fuzzball in full moon nights Thanks Klei! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluckles Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) remove woodlegs for being a pirate. pirates are terrible people. and remove walani for depicting hawaiians as lazy edit: remove wolfgang and woodie while you're at it. gotta get rid of these offensive characters all in one sweep Edited February 10, 2019 by Bluckles 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexias Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Remove WX, he offended me as human :(. Edited February 10, 2019 by Namelessgamer 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mueck Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just let it go. 2 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izuku_Midoriya Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mueck said: Just let it go. I don’t think people can just let go of a character being removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleksmits Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Izuku_Midoriya said: I don’t think people can just let go of a character being removed i think its just forums crybaby issue 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I say it's good that the removed him because Wall Street Journal could take him out of context. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 pls remove wigfrid, her voice offends my music taste. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 hours ago, lifetheuniverse said: Rip in pepperonis Lara Croft's eccentric granduncle. *Gruncle. Also we've now progressed into the memeing stage of the five stages of outrage. Spoiler Somebody please just nuke this section of the forums before it becomes terminal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dissentist Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 15 hours ago, JoeW said: Let's be super clear here. The reason we had issue with him was more because of this type of thread. It wasn't as much the character or what he represents, it's what people think that it does. Like this thread there have been a lot of speculations about our intent, when I clearly said why. We didn't have a single person actually contact us to complain about Warbucks. None. Not even one. There were conversations about it, And even after we changed it, there was speculation and decisions about what we did and why when it's very plainly stated. The simple fact is, we could do better. So we did. If we were trying to sweep him under the rug, we would have removed him entirely. We didn't. I'm sorry that some of you disagree with that decision, but we aren't going to invest more time into it, we put that time into a new character instead. As far as being upset because of a misrepresentation of what's in the game, we did add a new character in his place. An objectively better character gameplay-wise. We are still in an early-access for the game, that's being worked on added to and changed, but I am sorry you feel that we are misrepresenting what we are doing with the game, but I don't think we are hiding that fact at all. We will make a new trailer for sure. We're currently working out a roadmap for what we need to get completed to finish early access for the game. It's cool for us to talk about this. But let's keep it civil. We're not up to anything weird. Simply when we were in a room talking about how to 'fix' Warbucks, we simply decided our time was better spent on something new. It's that simple. Plant man is not "objectively better", if you think so then you need to buy a dictionary before you comment further, because you're saying objective where the correct word is SUBJECTIVE. Fine, rip him out, this whole thing is bull anyways, hopefully at least one person at KLEI learns from this that you don't rip out an established character from a game for no good reason. If nobody complained about Warbucks then there is literally NO good reason he can't be left in, either changed slightly or exactly the same, it's not like you can only have 3 characters per DLC or anything. Really all of this would be a moot point if the developers knew how to code properly and not have a game that "supports mods" but literally breaks CONSTANTLY if there's mods installed and an update happens, I really am keeping Warbucks either way, but your poor code are just going to cause me dozens of crashes down the line, so this is going to be reflected in my negative reviews about this across every game on every platform until you fix it. You may not have had anyone make it worse if he's in the game according to your words here, but you will definitely make it worse for yourselves if you keep him out, because as you clearly state here it is 100% your bad decision, so you rightfully SHOULD suffer consequences for it. We aren't the devs, the only power we have is in our power to influence either you or our peers. Like it or not, some of us are going to be heard. Get back in that room and fix this decision, it's a really poor one. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I clarified in a previous post. In terms of the perfromance issues, we're working on that and will soon have a roadmap on what we expect to have done before we finish early access. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izuku_Midoriya Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, JoeW said: a roadmap on what we expect to have done before we finish early access. Is putting back warbucks anywhere on there? General consensus here is that most people want him back or simply don't care. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinancoTheBest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 14 hours ago, JoeW said: We'll all be talking about this together Monday for sure. =) I sincerely hope that the first motion on your Monday meeting will be to discuss Warbucks' return to the game in an uninterrupted moderated caucus for two hours, individual speaker time being 1.5 minutes. It's never too late to go back on a terrible decision. You can do it Klei, just let some basic sense into your veins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dissentist Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said: I sincerely hope that the first motion on your Monday meeting will be to discuss Warbucks' return to the game in an uninterrupted moderated caucus for two hours, individual speaker time being 1.5 minutes. It's never too late to go back on a terrible decision. You can do it Klei, just let some basic sense into your veins. It's fairly obvious at this point they're currently attempting to prove that they don't and won't be listening to the fans, at least according to mod/dev comments this weekend. Hopefully when they "meet to talk about it" one of the speakers at least holds up a printout of literally any poll results on this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Izuku_Midoriya said: Is putting back warbucks anywhere on there? General consensus here is that most people want him back or simply don't care. We could bring back the gameplay, perhaps. But not the character. 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinancoTheBest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoeW said: We could bring back the gameplay, perhaps. But not the character. and is there a solid, transparent reason you can provide for this decision, that doesn't reek of hypocrisy or secrecy? What's wrong with this character that isn't wrong with the other collective 18 characters in the official DS universe? Apparently nothing about the gameplay unlike what is claimed in the very first post of this thread if you are considering to reintroduce the gameplay but not the character himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izuku_Midoriya Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, JoeW said: We could bring back the gameplay, perhaps. But not the character. Isn't your avatar a british gentleman smoking a pipe? Did that tobacco come from the East India Company? This is pretty ludicrous. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegeist Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, JoeW said: We could bring back the gameplay, perhaps. But not the character. That's what I was hoping for. I think the game still needs a character that specializes in ruins exploration, but does it a lot better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said: and is there a solid, transparent reason you can provide for this decision, that doesn't reek of hypocrisy or secrecy? What's wrong with this character that isn't wrong with the other collective 18 characters in the official DS universe? Apparently nothing about the gameplay unlike what is claimed in the very first post of this thread if you are considering to reintroduce the gameplay but not the character himself. Yep, everything I have posted previously in this thread. 5 minutes ago, Izuku_Midoriya said: Isn't your avatar a british gentleman smoking a pipe? Did that tobacco come from the East India Company? This is pretty ludicrous. Nope. That is a character of me that Jeff drew back in 2012 - there is no history or lore as to what is being smoked in it or where it comes from. It's not even technically supposed to be smoke, I think it's supposed to be vapor, I never asked. 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izuku_Midoriya Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoeW said: Nope. That is a character of me that Jeff drew back in 2012 - there is no history or lore as to what is being smoked in it or where it comes from. It's not even technically supposed to be smoke, I think it's supposed to be vapor, I never asked. So you’re gonna claim that character draws no aesthetic elements from the age of imperialism? Like the rest of the entire DLC? What is your problem with the character if you’ve caved and admitted the gameplay can make a comeback? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I was always wondering if Joe actually wears a monocle 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Izuku_Midoriya said: So you’re gonna claim that character draws no aesthetic elements from the age of imperialism? Like the rest of the entire DLC? What is your problem with the character if you’ve caved and admitted the gameplay can make a comeback? I have already explained that earlier in the thread. I am not here to argue, only to explain our thinking on this decision. If you want to have a constructive discussion about the topic, then please do. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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