Deltin Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 When a certain amount of hydrogen and oxygen is pumped into the machine via gas pipes, it outputs water through a liquid pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaided Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Deltin said: When a certain amount of hydrogen and oxygen is pumped into the machine via gas pipes, it outputs water through a liquid pipe. did you ever seen a reallife reaction of oxigen and hydrogen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, abaided said: did you ever seen a reallife reaction of oxigen and hydrogen? Yes, actually. You can burn Hydrogen IRL to get water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czeraphine Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 52 minutes ago, Hexicube said: Yes, actually. You can burn Hydrogen IRL to get water. Though, the process is just a little bit more complicated. It requires a fuel source, hydrogen, and oxygen. Almost any type of thermal combustion results in some H2O and CO2 as byproducts. It's not the hydrogen that's burning, but the fuel which then recombines with the oxygen in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihe Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Czeraphine said: Though, the process is just a little bit more complicated. It requires a fuel source, hydrogen, and oxygen. Almost any type of thermal combustion results in some H2O and CO2 as byproducts. It's not the hydrogen that's burning, but the fuel which then recombines with the oxygen in the air. No, it is not more complicated. The only requirement is a spark to initiate the chemical reaction (a violent one by the way). No extra fuel or other elements are required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrachronos Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 57 minutes ago, Czeraphine said: Though, the process is just a little bit more complicated. It requires a fuel source, hydrogen, and oxygen. Almost any type of thermal combustion results in some H2O and CO2 as byproducts. It's not the hydrogen that's burning, but the fuel which then recombines with the oxygen in the air. Â Hydrogen is the fuel, it just needs something to give it the ignition temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaided Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Hexicube said: Yes, actually. You can burn Hydrogen IRL to get water. i mean did you really think that explosion, that is result of reaction is.. mm.. safe enough for your dupes? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, abaided said: i mean did you really think that explosion, that is result of reaction is.. mm.. safe enough for your dupes? =) There's no such thing as safe combustion, only varying levels of danger. Hydrogen is a really good fuel, and there's no reason to not use it when it's readily available in the air from electrolysis. The main concern would actually be the fact there's a huge pocket of hydrogen, which would probably blow up a good chunk of your base were it mixed with a bit of oxygen and set off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souldrake Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Imagine this on a scale that actually made 1+kg of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'm fully aware that the reaction is an aggressive one, but the point is that in order to make water you combine hydrogen and oxygen. The best way of combining them is to have them react chemically, or in other words set the hydrogen on fire. If anything, electrolysers need a nerf because they produce way too much for their power usage, and hydrogen generators should consume far less. Don't think about the fact that there's an insane amount of energy involved in making 1kg of water, think about how much hydrogen and oxygen is needed for 600W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunny Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The hydrogen generator should create water as humidity/steam or fog. It is impossible to burn hydrogene in an oxygen environment and not have water as the end product. And it's pretty easy too. One litre of water is made from 1235 litres of hydrogene and 622 litres of oxygene under atmospheric pressure. 2 mol of hydrogen for every mol of oxygen ~ 1 kilo of hydrogen and ~8 kilo of oxygene make 9 kilos of water it's a reaction that potentially releases a lot of energy to just create water one would just pressurize the gas and set it on fire at the outlet creating a flare stack, in general that is a pretty safe thing to do engines are a bit more dangerous, but still considerably less dangerous than steam engines were for example using the electrolyzer stuff could be freely transformed for a great thermal energy net loss I kinda wish the game was based on those chemical cycles and not depletion, but the latter gives for a far more interesting experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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