clh Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Is there any way to make a clean or contaminated water? I'm not talking about taking the water from existing water pools, but creating it from other resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criptfeind Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The bio-distiller creates contaminated water out of slime. But it's a very small amount, only 100 grams of water per job. It seems like it might be possible to get infinite slime from puffs, but I imagine it'd take a very large number of them to actually make enough slime, not to mention many bio-distillers. Right now it seems that running out of water is more or less the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltin Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Criptfeind said: The bio-distiller creates contaminated water out of slime. But it's a very small amount, only 100 grams of water per job. It seems like it might be possible to get infinite slime from puffs, but I imagine it'd take a very large number of them to actually make enough slime, not to mention many bio-distillers. Right now it seems that running out of water is more or less the end of the game. Yeah, 70% of my gameplay is making paths to any kind of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clh Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 That's a bit disappointing. Will see what I can do with slimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zether Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 There's some other ways as well, including using the the water purifier to create more of it.You can use the plumbing toilet (lavatory) which gives a bonus of 5 kg per use along with the stockpile of air scrubbers and a couple of showers but those just reuse water and i don't know why I'm even writing this (probably just to give information). The ONLY way to get more water is the puffs to get slime and then using a TON of bio distilleries. The longest i lasted was about 36 cycles and the reason i died was because of a ton of hydrogen flooded my home because of all the Electrolyzer in my base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czeraphine Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 You can technically create water by making a giant vat of vomit at the bottom of your base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamjam Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Aside from searching the asteroid for water, what you can do is cherry pick dupes who have small bladders and stress puke. Once your dupes are so needy that their stress management is halting production, start collecting the bodily fluids from your clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dearmad Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Jaysus what a nightmare existence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.n.y Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 For me currently best source still - dig down to magma, make contaminated water fall into it -> steam -> transfer steam in thermo pipes -> cool down pipes -> get clean water. I tried similar variant to create steam with hydrogen generator (as it hot enough) but its too glitchy (sometimes works, sometimes not) and also too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dearmad Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Does that generate water or just purify your unpure water... so still a dwindling supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, dearmad said: Does that generate water or just purify your unpure water... so still a dwindling supply? turns contaminated water into clean water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dearmad Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 yes... so it is dwindling as there is no inflow of water to your environment that I know of. Not renewable as it "disappears" with some uses, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Sadly... yes. Using it to make oxygen, to make mushbars, to do research or to water algae destroys water without getting some way of getting it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebottom Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The game doesn't seem to support this, but the hydrogen generator should accept hydrogen and oxygen as input, with water and energy as output. That's how hydrogen fuel works, right? 2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O Granted, the reason we have hydrogen gas is because we split water to get oxygen, so... *stress-pukes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkusReese Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Octyabr said: Sadly... yes. Using it to make oxygen, to make mushbars, to do research or to water algae destroys water without getting some way of getting it back. That first one is easily the greatest imbalance.. it is my one thing I would like to see looked at in the game. I have a larger base and for some reason need to make oxygen full time from at least one electrolysis for only eight duplicates. I have three of those slime processors going to at least try to help offset. One thing for water I would like to see is hydrogen power generators put out steam exhaust. Though then it would need to ensure that the power to split it was more than the power returned from it. Also would take up oxygen. Overall, the cycle does feel too open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, applebottom said: The game doesn't seem to support this, but the hydrogen generator should accept hydrogen and oxygen as input, with water and energy as output. That's how hydrogen fuel works, right? 2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O Granted, the reason we have hydrogen gas is because we split water to get oxygen, so... *stress-pukes* No, you can have either water or electricity, not both. Generator is burning the h2 to create energy. To create water you would have to spent energy. Specifically you take hydrogen, add oxygen and burn. Come forth water and heat. Yes. The Martian taught me things (well, reminded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebottom Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Vilda said: No, you can have either water or electricity, not both. Generator is burning the h2 to create energy. To create water you would have to spent energy. Specifically you take hydrogen, add oxygen and burn. Come forth water and heat. Yes. The Martian taught me things (well, reminded) But H2 is a fuel. The reaction is combustion. Combustion of fuel creates energy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_internal_combustion_engine_vehicle I assumed the hydrogen generator has an extra step to capture the energy output of combustion and transform it into electrical form. But you can't just "burn" H2 by itself and create energy from nothing. There's a chemical reaction involved. The one I posted above. You can, of course, just apply heat to the gas and increase the pressure, pass it through a turbine, and convert the mechanical energy into electricity. But that's not a chemical reaction. You're just playing with the volume/pressure of the gas. It's possible that ONI's hydrogen generator uses turbines (but it's too small! also, where is the heat coming from???). In which case, I'll rest my case and just wish for a second type of machine which allows us to burn hydrogen in the presence of O2 to get heat + water. I don't know what Martian is, sorry Just trying to recall old thermo lessons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Oxygen in the game is a relative term. In common use and in game terms we often say "oxygen" when we actually mean atmospheric air which is roughly 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen. If it was pure oxygen I would be really more worried about rapid oxidization of copper and other materials, as well as the constant threat of flash fires which don't happen. I think it is safe to assume oxygen really just is synonymous with atmospheric air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 3 hours ago, applebottom said: Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Well, I meant the book While the movie is quite good adaptation, last scene change is a Hollywood style ********. And book contains more of the "boring" math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuaresoft Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I remember that my base was polluted in O2, CO2, H, and maybe others (soo much polluted ), and the water levels grow up, like a reaction.. i am wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSloth Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Geysers produce infinite water do they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickPay Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, TopSloth said: Geysers produce infinite water do they not? They produce Steam at regular interval, indefinitely, unless under too much (water) pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSloth Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, PickPay said: They produce Steam at regular interval, indefinitely, unless under too much (water) pressure. I also see it sometimes say emitting water and steam, plus steam is basically water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickPay Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, TopSloth said: I also see it sometimes say emitting water and steam, plus steam is basically water Could be a mix Im not sure, it might depend on the temperature around it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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