Maxwell

[Trozay]

Do you think they will bring Maxwell into Dont starve together? What about explaining how the other characters got into the world?

[oCrapaCreeper]

They said in some stream a bit ago that adding Maxwell apparently isn't a priority right now, or along those lines.

[Johnny5isAlive]

@Trozay, It seems the addition of Maxwell is being held off for more of a grand reveal of the new him. He'll probably be released along the same time as Caves, however if they are waiting for the right moment lore wise then he might stay hidden away for quite awhile longer, perhaps until TTA. 

[Pyromailmann]

As CrapaCreeper said, he's not priority. Haven't tuned into the streams lately so this is alright news and I understand why he's not priority.

[Thieverpedia]

Oh, it would be fun to play as Maxwell in DST. But he's going to need a good buff for people to use that fragile thing.

[GuyNamedChris]

Oh, it would be fun to play as Maxwell in DST. But he's going to need a good nerf for people to use that maxwell clone thing.

yes, i totally agree 

 

 

 

Maxwell needs a huge nerf to be added back :/

[oCrapaCreeper]

yes, i totally agree 

 

 

 

Maxwell needs a huge nerf to be added back :/

The clones really aren't that useful at all. They also don't use the kiting AI, have the same health as Maxwell himself (75), and have a very slow attack period, so they die insanely fast in most fights. Pigs have smarter AI and are much cheaper to use. 

 

I've never found a practical use for them in vanilla DS, they are just a luxury to have when you have a ton of nightmare fuel. They are only useful when you have 3 out at once, which wrecks your sanity and health. Even then they're only useful for maybe chopping down a group of trees, and even then pigs are better at it and cheaper.

[GuyNamedChris]

The clones really aren't that useful. They deal 40 damage and have the same health as Maxwell himself, which is 75.

but imagine how op he would be in pvp, four maxwells surrounding one player and just ganging up on him, he would not be able to attack back (stunlock reasons) and lets not forget the fact that one maxwell (the player) starts out with armor and a sword?

[oCrapaCreeper]

but imagine how op he would be in pvp, four maxwells surrounding one player and just ganging up on him, he would not be able to attack back (stunlock reasons) and lets not forget the fact that one maxwell (the player) starts out with armor and a sword?

 

1. There can only be 3 out at once, not 4

2. Maxwell only starts with enough Nightmare Fuel to summon 2 clones, and also takes damage each time he summons one

3. The attack speed of the shadows is not fast enough to stunlock players. They take 2 seconds to swing.

4. Wigfrid starts with armor and a weapon too, has more health, has an increased damage modifier, and regains health. Is she not a problem?

 

For most combat purposes they are not useful at all. Low health, low damage, slow attackspeed, and no kiting AI.

 

 

[GuyNamedChris]

1. There can only be 3 out at once, not 4

2. Maxwell only starts with enough Nightmare Fuel to summon 2 clones, and also takes damage each time he summons one

3. The attack speed of the shadows is not fast enough to stunlock players. They take 2 seconds to swing.

4. Wigfrid starts with armor and a weapon too, has more health, and regains health. Is she not a problem?

(btw not trying to start a maxwell argument)

1. I was including Maxwell + the clones

2. You can always find ways to get nightmare fuel

3. OK my bad

4. Just saying that the armor and weapon Maxwell starts with is more effective

[The Letter W]

The clones really aren't that useful at all. They also don't use the kiting AI, have the same health as Maxwell himself (75), and have a very slow attack period, so they die insanely fast in most fights. Pigs have smarter AI and are much cheaper to use. 

 

I've never found a practical use for them in vanilla DS, they are just a luxury to have when you have a ton of nightmare fuel. They are only useful when you have 3 out at once, which wrecks your sanity and health. Even then they're only useful for maybe chopping down a group of trees, and even then pigs are better at it and cheaper.

 

I also find they spend most of their time trying not to stand on you rather than doing anything they're supposed to. 

Thanks for your one helpful chop on that tree guys, glad you could be around!

[RalphKastro]

Soon

 

[Gingerbread]

They said in some stream a bit ago that adding Maxwell apparently isn't a priority right now, or along those lines.

 

But why? i dont think he has something OP to keep for multiplayer experience. Maybe codex umbra? I dont think that power is OP. A wigfrid or wolfgang can easily one shot kill each puppet.

 

why they dont add the same character like they did add primary characters..

 

they should just copy paste the codes and add him to the game directly. He has nothing op except for sanity.. His sanity is always increasing XD. Challenge was to get nightmare fuel with him in single player but now his teammates can provide lotta nightmare fuel for him to spawn shadow pups. but then again, that shadow pups really suck at fighting. Another thing about him is it would be an easy character for people who does not able to keep sanity up. So players new to the game would choose him just to focus on 2 stats rather than 3 at a time. though it is OK..

 

Another problem would be group of maxwell.. That would be a serious threat in PvP servers.. Thoughn, 4 well fed wolfgang with same armor and weapon can easily kill 4 maxwell with same armor and weapon along with 12 shadow puppets.

[jbeetle]

I have a totally unsubstanitated guess. Maxwell is more or less already done, but they want to introduce him with another patch to make the patch beefier.

[Mobbstar]

I have a totally unsubstanitated guess. Maxwell is more or less already done, but they want to introduce him with another patch to make the patch beefier.

 

Are you implying that a character with half the maximum health of most other people is beefy? Unless... what has Klei done?!

[1v0]

I think the main reason he isn't out yet is LORE (and of course a little balance) !  After all he is the one that tricked all others in entering this world we can't expect them to be friendly with him . So there is need for some lore/event to clean it up .

EDIT : Don't forget last puzzle .

From the look of it they are both mortal and probably met in DST world .

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dont-starve-game/images/5/55/Slap_Fight.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150416223503

 

[jbeetle]

Are you implying that a character with half the maximum health of most other people is beefy? Unless... what has Klei done?!

Beefy, as in the content of the patch. Rather than just a hot fix.

[bluhbluh]

if they are going to put Maxwell in dst they will need to put adventure mode in as well and im not sure how that would work

[rezecib]

I have a totally unsubstanitated guess. Maxwell is more or less already done, but they want to introduce him with another patch to make the patch beefier.

 I believe this is correct. They've been making code changes to systems only used by him (e.g. sanity penalty). Not everything is there in the code that we have, but there are references to code that isn't there, e.g.:

                --[[                    Because we don't have any maxsanity restoring items we want to be more careful                    with how we remove max sanity. Because of that, this is not handled here.                    Removal of sanity is actually managed by the entity that is created.                    See maxwell's pet leash on spawn and pet on death functions for examples.                --]]

(The pet leash on spawn and pet on death functions do not currently exist for shadowwaxwell)

 

Edit: This is actually in the builder component, and follows a section that details different kinds of recipe ingredients, which suggests that the current form of Maxwell they have actually "crafts" his puppets.

[Shian]

I thought it was pretty clear the reason Maxwell hasn't been added is because he would be detrimental to the SURVIVAL experience.

 

Even with three ghosts and dusk the sanity drain is still only 13.3/min meaning maxwell won't lose any sanity. That pretty much negates the point of ghosts.

[Toros]

I thought it was pretty clear the reason Maxwell hasn't been added is because he would be detrimental to the SURVIVAL experience.

Even with three ghosts and dusk the sanity drain is still only 13.3/min meaning maxwell won't lose any sanity. That pretty much negates the point of ghosts.

Those two statements have nothing to do with each other.

I've never been particularly impressed with penalizing people for ghosts existing, but after a few IG years you'll have enough taffy to survive for a long time anyway.