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  1. 1. Should there be a Mama Tusk?



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It's not the camp the the mobs themselves since some of the stuff from Don't Starve is based off Fairy Tales.

Right, but what specifically about the mobs from the MacTusk camp is reminiscent of the Goldilocks fairytale? I'm honestly curious. 

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I don't care about the added difficulty that would come along with this addition. My take on it is that hunting is typically a man's sport. Since this game is based in the early 1900's (correct me if I'm wrong!), it seems so atypical and strange that a woman would go out hunting instead of... well... being in the kitchen! Hehe.

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I don't care about the added difficulty that would come along with this addition. My take on it is that hunting is typically a man's sport. Since this game is based in the early 1900's (correct me if I'm wrong!), it seems so atypical and strange that a woman would go out hunting instead of... well... being in the kitchen! Hehe.

 

Who say she has to appear with Mac and Wee tusk, maybe she could come out when you kill both of them; be a boss mob. She could also be a like an angler fish (the ones we see are actually all female. The males attach themselves to the female like a parasite). Another surprise is that the female T-Rex is actually more dangerous then the male T-Rex. Then again, maybe mama tusk could be the deerclops.

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What...???Why...???

 

Metaphorically speaking. Have a vastly different fight from Mac and Wee Tusk. Or If your talking about male angler fish latching on to female ones like a parasite, then that's how they reproduce. maybe have the mama be the Camp itself.

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But it's a hunting party. MacTusk 'n' Son moved in over winter - you didn't typically have women accompanying the men; instead, they stayed home to care for the children.

I know fine well that you should never underestimate a mother's love for her children (or her maternal instincts, that is). My point is that it just doesn't fit. It just doesn't - but that's not to say it wouldn't work as a mod.

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I don't care about the added difficulty that would come along with this addition. My take on it is that hunting is typically a man's sport. Since this game is based in the early 1900's (correct me if I'm wrong!), it seems so atypical and strange that a woman would go out hunting instead of... well... being in the kitchen! Hehe.

There's nothing that existed at any point in time that only men were doing (give or take stuff like being the pope). Certainly as a form of entertainment for the Western upper class, women from rich families were often involved with hunting activities. And I'd definitely assume the MacTusks to be upper class, or however that works in DS. They've got their fancy igloo, couple of trained hounds, the tam-o-shanter, and they certainly don't seem to be out because they have to feed their starving family. More like they're looking for a new head on the wall.

 

Which isn't to say I am necessarily interested in a Ms. MacTusk. I'd rather have a first (confirmed) female hunchback be something new.

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Actually hunting is a woman's task in most species. Humanity is the exception.

 

Actually, hunting was actually a women's task in Ancient Sparta. In fact, they more or less ran the city while the men were out conquering and killing. As queen Gorgo said (And she actually said this when asked why Spartan women could rule men) "Because we are the only ones who give birth to real men."

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Sorry, I'm going to need a citation on that. Everything I've been taught at uni (by researchers in the field of human evolution) suggests entirely otherwise - not saying you're absolutely wrong; I just need some evidence - 'tis the budding scientist within me... :-)

Regarding the stuff about the female upper-class, it seems - to me - a bit far fetched that women could go hunting (with a man's permission) before they were even allowed to vote as they were deemed unfit mentally for some bizarre reason. In the Edwardian era (when I assume Don't Starve was based), women were often "to be seen and not heard", as my understanding goes. There was a time not long before then that women weren't allowed to be in the kitchen as they were thought to be incompetent (hence I find the irony in sexist jokes in that regard).

 

@seronis,

Well, yes. You're right - although, in most species paternal care is somewhat of a rarity. Humans (as a rule of thumb) benefit from a lot of paternal care. In this case, although they species in question is technically supposed to be some kind of walrus, it is so humanoid in nature (upright gait, clothing, the ability to harness a non-anatomical light source), that one would think other human traits would apply, even historic ones.

 

@Ixmore

Fair enough. Perhaps an exception to the general state of ancient human - although, regarding someone who was in reign during 480BC (according to Wikipedia), I'm reluctant to believe any sort of history that long forgotten unless there's solid proof behind it. I don't know much about ancient Greece, and my statement was made about the UK (really should have put that in, but I thought it was a given - sorry!), so I don't know if our knowledge of it is fabricated from certain truth, possibilities, or downright lies to sell a story.

... If only we had a time machine!

 

 

 

Well, that went off topic rather quickly (sorry!) and it went very in-depth for what was a discussion about an additional character in a game! Lol! I've said my piece, but I won't dwell on the subject any longer unless others want me to clear up anything.

 

 

Have fun! ^_^

 

EDIT: Sorry for any grammatical mistakes, etc. I can't be bothered to look back and fix them; it's half past midnight over here. :razz:

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@blaaaat

Sorry, I'm going to need a citation on that. Everything I've been taught at uni (by researchers in the field of human evolution) suggests entirely otherwise - not saying you're absolutely wrong; I just need some evidence - 'tis the budding scientist within me... :-)

Regarding the stuff about the female upper-class, it seems - to me - a bit far fetched that women could go hunting (with a man's permission) before they were even allowed to vote as they were deemed unfit mentally for some bizarre reason. In the Edwardian era (when I assume Don't Starve was based), women were often "to be seen and not heard", as my understanding goes. There was a time not long before then that women weren't allowed to be in the kitchen as they were thought to be incompetent (hence I find the irony in sexist jokes in that regard).

 

I'm by no means an expert on that particular part of society in that era, but I can give you this:

 

  • This is one of the first things I found with Google Images "Scottish hunting parties". Not even "Edwardian Scottish hunting parties", just "Scottish hunting parties".
  • Going academics, there's a long history of men dominating that spot and only really being interested in what men do and accomplish (not to mention the Western-focus). That practice continues today, with as its product a default assumption that (non-servant/enslaved) women never did anything but staying home and caring for children. If you want to be intellectually honest, your default assumption should be that any kind of person was doing something at a certain point in time and rather find evidence for the opposite.
  • You make a point of women not being allowed to do something considered harmless entertainment because they didn't have the right to vote yet, but you have no probs with Wickerbottom working in intellectual circles, which is just as much a thing generally believed to be male-only?
  • Why are we talking the historical accuracy of representation of anthropomorphic walrus society in a game where you can make meatballs out of one piece of meat and three pieces of ice?
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Are you guys having fun? Great! Share the knowledge, as if there wasn't too much already.

 

On a serious note though, I expected a gameplay orientated discussion, not Dorians dictating gameplay. EDIT: By which I mean to say, this is just a game and not a history lesson. Leave the deep thought to artists and probably-honest politicians, unless you are (in the process of becoming) one of those yourself. EDIT2: By which I mean to say that basing your opinion on Sparta is a bit too far fetched for a topic of such little actual meaning, and also it's kinda dumb (for no particular reason) to put Sparta in half your arguments. EDIT3: Which kinda gives away that I didn't carefully read your statements. I am sincerely sorry to have bothered you, gentlemen. Have a good night!

 

EDIT4: I don't even know

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Actually MacTusk is the only parent in the family so he hunts people with his eldest son and sells their flesh on the black market so his kids can survive. It was explained on the update poster, look it up.

All I found was "Hunter family of much nobility".

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Are you guys having fun? Great! Share the knowledge, as if there wasn't too much already.

 

On a serious note though, I expected a gameplay orientated discussion, not Dorians dictating gameplay. EDIT: By which I mean to say, this is just a game and not a history lesson. Leave the deep thought to artists and probably-honest politicians, unless you are (in the process of becoming) one of those yourself. EDIT2: By which I mean to say that basing your opinion on Sparta is a bit too far fetched for a topic of such little actual meaning, and also it's kinda dumb (for no particular reason) to put Sparta in half your arguments. EDIT3: Which kinda gives away that I didn't carefully read your statements. I am sincerely sorry to have bothered you, gentlemen. Have a good night!

 

EDIT4: I don't even know

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Yeah, I'm not a historian, either. :p

Had to add a reply to this topic to comment on that pic. 'Is very nice.

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I can't help but Imagine Mac Tusk and Son, being based off "Goldie Locks and the Three Bears." Since Mac Tusk is Papa bear and Wee Tusk is Baby bear, what do you think this Mama tusk would be capable of?

Making a mean monster meat sandwich! haha I'm sorry had to do it.

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I'm struggling to work out why this thread went off into a history lesson.

I'm even more concerned with the idea that since a game is set on a certain time period, we're guessing 1900 something here, it has to fit that time period.

Have people forgotten that not everything has to be historically accurate?

Films don't have to be, books don't have to be, a video game likely has the best excuse not to be.

As an example, pirates are cool, right? I mean, sure, they look pretty awesome, I mean, free people of the sea and all, but they were far worse then often portrayed in many a film or game or book, even, unless you are aiming for historical books.

People romanticize most things, to make it better for the times.

I know it's a lie to make it all sound better, but face it, would you rather cheer for the super nice pirate person over the actual, historical pirate person? I don't think most people would cheer for the historically accurate ones.

 

Going back on topic.....

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a Mama Tusk.

Tusk And Son is easy anyway when you know what to do. Maybe she would appear onscreen when you have killed one or both of them, and she would essentially be the actual, big scary boss of the 3. Tons of health, scarier to fight, so on. Maybe she could have her own controllable mobs, maybe something different from hounds, but what, I don't know.

I'm always in approval of more creatures to kill you, or just more creatures.

 

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