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Why raise small/smallish birds if they go hostile upon becoming adults?


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I will summarize some resons:
1.)Teenbirds are pretty strong and help you to kill monsters and stuff.
2.)Neither rabbits nor birds are afraid of teenbirds, so you can click on
    one of these and press any walking key to stop the attack, while
    your bird friend kills it and you get meat and feathers.
    (If you always feed it with stuff before it gets hungry it wont steal
     the meat)
3.)YOU GET A CUTE LITTLE BIRD FRIEND!
 

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i have more then a stack of feathers and morsels on a totally normal winter season as well, when i farm krampus and blowdarts using the boomerang.

so whats the point? if i want a useful follower i rather go into the ruins and spend 3 gears on a clockwork junk pile and get myself a bishop who'll 1 shot kill me birds and rabbits.

if you have a bigger army of bishops they'll even 1 shot kill hounds and pigs for you at a even faster rate then the houndius shootius could ever kill stuff for you.

 

also the bishops stay loyal to you for as long as you dont die or accidently attack them.

 

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also the bishops stay loyal to you for as long as you dont die or accidently attack them.

 

  1. They die from taps so you can't make a fortress with trap halls for hounds...
  2. Are viewed as monsters so pig minions are hard to come by... also makes it hard to make them into werepigs by feeding them 4 monster meat and harvesting them for 2 meat and 1 pigskin... as they will be busy being killed...
  3. They hate chester for some reason O___O

 

But yeah, they're a good warrior-follower... but because of the above mentioned reasons... hmm... you could become like Michonne and have 2 bishops tagging behind you... always wandering... and leaving chester somewhere... him not being able to follow you...

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every follower will set off toothtraps/beemines...the idea is to have your followers as defense so why do you even want to use traps?

and im aware that certain followers are hard to keep alive at some point, so be realistic you cant keep them forever the next giant will wipe them out easily. thats why i think having followers isn't that useful once you're very good at combat yourself.

 

but if i want to have followers i'll go with bunnyman but let me list the pros and cons for every combat follower that exists.

 

small/teenbirds demand food every so often so if you cant even keep yourself fed then you probably shouldn't hatch eggs. The wiki says that teenbirds regenerate 1/3 (100) of thair max health after they've eaten something, so i think i 5-8 birds could easily 1 shot kill stuff for you. they dont spook birds so you could farm feathers and morsels but since they're hungry themselves they'll most likely eat almost every morsel before you get a chance to pick it up.

The time it takes for smallbirds to grow to teens is way too long in my opinion. thats more then half of the winter and in a few days you'll most likely have your next giant who'll wipe them out in 2 swings.

 

pigs can be hired with meat and they then work for you for as long as you keep them fed. i like them for wood choping and thair sanity aura when you have them befriended but for combat they're not that great unless you equipt them with football helmets.

when they turn to werepigs you'll easily get food and pigskin so thats the best use for them as you said. because they eat everything thats laying on the floor werepigs are a very good poop machine, drop berries,veggies,butterflywings,petals on the floor and turn it all to manure.

i personaly use mostly manure to fuel my flingos and firepits at night, very useful!

 

since you can get spiders as followers by equipting the hat or playing as webber i'll list them too.

they do also attack chester and only follow you for 2 mins, so they're not ideal followers if you want something for combat.

warriors or the cave spitters might be something but still you only have 2 mins to use them.

as webber a small army of spitters might be nice to have but thair small range and the 20 damage per shot puts them to shame compared to my mentioned bishop who shots twice as far and does twice the damage.

 

rocklobsters do good damage in groups but alone they'll mostly hide in thair shell and wait for thair death. i personaly use them only as depthworm bodyguards and to make them kill each other for rocks,flints and a piece of meat.

 

the broken clockworks as i mention before can be very useful if you have farmed enough gears and want a army of bishops who 1 shot kill stuff for you in a second. everything else but the bishop is garbage though. the rook will most likely demolish your base if you bring him to the surface and the knights are too fraggle.

the bishops maybe as fraggle but they can atleast keep enemies at the distance and they can shot over walls which you could use to your advantage as well.

 

many people like to use wendy because of abigail but during the day shes only useful at killing spiders and bees. if you want to kill real stuff you need to enter the combat during the night because ghosts do 4 times as much damage during the night. i have no problem to leave base at night but other people might have so im not sure why people like to use a character who does -25% damage but instead gives the player a semi useful follower who cant even kill 10 frogs.

 

and finally bunnyman. i fooled around a little with this guys in a creative testworld. i spawned in 25 bunnymen and these guys easily wiped out 1 varg after another which i spawned in afterwards. they even killed 5 vargs at the same time. thair ability to flee from the fight and regen hp is very useful and they do respawn in thair hutch every day. once they turned to beardlords they'll do 20 more damage and attack twice as fast. should a beardlord fall in the fight you'll get 2 beardhairs from him, how can that be bad?

ofcourse you cant carry around any meats while you befriend bunnymen so stuff your food into chester and open him whenever you get hungry.

many people also play the dragonpie strat which might be useful when you befriend many bunnymen. i personaly find dragonpies overrated because its too much of a hazel to set that up and because i kill so much stuff on my worlds i dont ever need them.

 

 

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many people like to use wendy because of abigail but during the day shes only useful at killing spiders and bees. if you want to kill real stuff you need to enter the combat during the night because ghosts do 4 times as much damage during the night. i have no problem to leave base at night but other people might have so im not sure why people like to use a character who does -25% damage but instead gives the player a semi useful follower who cant even kill 10 frogs.

 

 

I did not know this. No wonder I dominated with Wendy when I tried Lights Out.

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I like to refer to smallbirds as stealth bombers, cause they are great for killing rabbits and birds. Not so much for larger things.

 

As for clockwork followers, they require you to go into the ruins, which is pretty late game. Smallbirds are better for early/mid game.

 

smallbirds cant do stuff that you cant do with your boomerang anyway. it only makes sense to use smallbirds for bird killing if you're playing a character like wes or wendy who have the -25% damage multiplier. as every other character i think boomerang is the way to go because you also collect naughty points for kills which is useful if you're after the krampus sack and every krampus kill gives you 2 charcoal which you also need for new boomerangs.

 

 

it depends on what you describe as late game? my prestihatitator is going up during my first winter because once its spring its a little bit more tough to get rabbits, unless i dig up holes which i consider a waste. soon after i can build the shadow manipulator depending on how lucky i'll be with treeguards. the nightmarefuel is easy to farm on shadow creatures if you're a little experienced with kiting this guys and the purple gem i usually have already from a bishop kill or from digging graves and refining blue + red gem.

the only item that i would describe as late game is the darksword which is my standart equiptment and i'll rush it as soon as possible. for the caving i usually only need some health regenerating food like pierogi because its not spoiling as fast as for example dragonpies or fishsticks and some sanity regenerating food like taffy or jerky. i also bring some living logs and nightmare fuels for new darkswords, wood for new logsuits and a campfire if i ever need to dry myself from the endless rain or warm myself up during the winter,umbrella or thermal stone depending on the season, stack of grass and twigs, some flint for pickaxes but you'll find some from earthquakes anyway and either the moggles or a miners hat but i prefer the miners hat because it gives 20% rain protection during spring.

i consider all this stuff obtainable within the first 2 seasons so i could go caving in my first spring of that world. day 57 is not that late if you ask me. :grin:

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@DawnyGoi

Did you even read my post?

I once raised a tallbird and after he

grew up I had a whole stack of morsels

and a whole stack of feathers from birds.

Yeah yo, but depending on where you're at in game, morsels are kinda just there. There are better food sources than that.

And as for feathers, they're good for darts and such if you actually use them. It all just depends on your play style. Just in my opinion spending days hatching the egg and keeping the smallbird safe until teenbird stage and all that is kinda a waste of time unless your point in doing it is to waste time.

 

smallbirds cant do stuff that you cant do with your boomerang anyway. it only makes sense to use smallbirds for bird killing if you're playing a character like wes or wendy who have the -25% damage multiplier. as every other character i think boomerang is the way to go because you also collect naughty points for kills which is useful if you're after the krampus sack and every krampus kill gives you 2 charcoal which you also need for new boomerangs.

 

 

it depends on what you describe as late game? my prestihatitator is going up during my first winter because once its spring its a little bit more tough to get rabbits, unless i dig up holes which i consider a waste. soon after i can build the shadow manipulator depending on how lucky i'll be with treeguards. the nightmarefuel is easy to farm on shadow creatures if you're a little experienced with kiting this guys and the purple gem i usually have already from a bishop kill or from digging graves and refining blue + red gem.

the only item that i would describe as late game is the darksword which is my standart equiptment and i'll rush it as soon as possible. for the caving i usually only need some health regenerating food like pierogi because its not spoiling as fast as for example dragonpies or fishsticks and some sanity regenerating food like taffy or jerky. i also bring some living logs and nightmare fuels for new darkswords, wood for new logsuits and a campfire if i ever need to dry myself from the endless rain or warm myself up during the winter,umbrella or thermal stone depending on the season, stack of grass and twigs, some flint for pickaxes but you'll find some from earthquakes anyway and either the moggles or a miners hat but i prefer the miners hat because it gives 20% rain protection during spring.

i consider all this stuff obtainable within the first 2 seasons so i could go caving in my first spring of that world. day 57 is not that late if you ask me. :grin:

Haha, well I mean late game as in you having everything set and can actually survive comfortably without having to bother keeping another little thing alive long enough until it can defend itself without being oneshot by something. Saying there's probably better things to use your time on before raising a smallbird hehe.  As for farming Krampus, I prefer just killing Glommer because I honestly end up hitting myself with the boomerang with every other bird haha; then I also think charcoal and silk could be used for more useful things until I've set up a way that they're always readily available without too much work. But that all amounts up to how one prefers to play the game, no right or wrong way as long as you're surviving.

 

Yeah, a lot of it is up to world generation too as for ease of acquiring the things you need in a sufficient amount of time.  Sometimes ya end up with terrible maps. On one of my latest worlds I had a tiny swamp, hardly any bees, like only 2 clockworks above ground and no pig king. I've had more imo "meh" maps than not lately. But when world generation and RNG are on your side, maaan you can have some nice worlds and as long as you manage your time well (not raising smallbirds heh) you can get a ton of things done that many players might consider to be more late game . 

But man, not bad being able to get that all stuff done by day 57, kudos yo.

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@DawnyGoi

Well, if you have a smallish tallbird, than you don't need to care about food at all.

You can also cook the morsels in the crock pot to get meatballs.

Well that is until it grows up and you must kill it after it turns on you.

My thoughts are that if you have the time to raise a smallbird into a smallish tallbird bird without it getting itself killed before then then I would assume you've already got an established way of obtaining food before you decided to hatch the egg. In early game the focus, more or less is to establish yourself well enough to survive your first year, and you must have had enough food if you could do so. Not really a point to raising a smallbird except for the experience of doing so.  

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The easiest way to never starve at any time of year is still likely having a spider den nearby and a birdcage.  Feed the bird monster meat to get eggs

 

That does not have anything to do with the topic of "Why to raise smallbirds". Unless you mean a tallbird in the birdcage...

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