Feedback with season changes in ROG

[angrysquirrel]

The new seasonal challenges in ROG just make the game more frustrating and create more busy work. 

 

Here's my gripes. 

 

Sum - it feels like Klei took the seasonal environment changees to the extreme with ROG and made the game more frustrating rather than fun.

 

Summer -

 

You HAVE to build a flingomatic or your base WILL catch on fire. If you didn't get the ice in the season that it's available then say goodbye to your base (it's not around in summer unless you like puddles).

 

Well, I guess you could build like 10 endothermic firepits all around your base and run around keeping them lit so you base can be cool.  But then you'd spend your time cutting down enough trees the size of washington state to keep them running.  Then you'd run out of fint / gold for your axes and you'd die.  At least you got that busy work though instead of having fun.

 

You WILL DIE if there's no tree placement to get around from one spot to another.  Unless of course you cold stone is sufficiently cold enough to get from one spot to another.  Basically, it's a reverse winter.

 

It's like in the summer the land has turned into the temperature of Mercury.

 

There appears to have been no consideration of the heat depending on the environment you are in.  If you're living in the swamp it should be cooler because you have all the moisture coming off from the ponds and the mud.  It's appears to be lethally hot no mattere where you go.  Why can't you take water from the ponds to cool yourself or use the mud to insulate you from the heat?

 

Caves should offer complete insulation from the environment in the summer.  Caves are cool, damp and dark.  The temperature should be pretty much uniform at a certain depth.  But not in the don't starve ROG world. You'll die from the heat down there too.

 

Unless you have a thermal stone, prepared to stack up a crapload of wood and stay next to your endo thermic fire until the next season change. But unless you've stocked up on food you're going to fry and die in the heat if you go foraging.

 

Nothing appears to regrow in the summer.  Everything wilts.

 

If it's like Mercury outside, why doesn't all the wildlife and monsters die?  Pretty much everything should die, right?

 

 

minor gripe -

 

You can't cook on an endothermic fire - why?

 

Spring -

 

Is it tsunami season?  I've never seen so much rain in my whole life.

 

Rain cooling to such an extreme you can die of hypothermia AND go insane in the process.

 

With all that rain, why can't you collect water to use to cool yourself off in the summer?

 

 

I wish there was an option to disable the seasonal climate stuff.  IMO, it's so harsh and unbalanced it's ridiculous.

 

 

[orian34]

The new seasonal challenges in ROG just make the game more frustrating and create more busy work. 

 

Here's my gripes. 

 

Sum - it feels like Klei took the seasonal environment changees to the extreme with ROG and made the game more frustrating rather than fun.

 

Summer -

 

You HAVE to build a flingomatic or your base WILL catch on fire. If you didn't get the ice in the season that it's available then say goodbye to your base (it's not around in summer unless you like puddles).

only if you're dumb enough to stand in your full flammable things base without flingo during summer :/

Well, I guess you could build like 10 endothermic firepits all around your base and run around keeping them lit so you base can be cool.nah, only one fridge and thermal stones are sufficient

  But then you'd spend your time cutting down enough trees the size of washington state to keep them running.  Then you'd run out of fint / gold for your axes and you'd die.  At least you got that busy work though instead of having fun.

 

You WILL DIE if there's no tree placement to get around from one spot to another.  Unless of course you cold stone is sufficiently cold enough to get from one spot to another.  Basically, it's a reverse winter.

yup, but because winter was here before summer, you think it's normal for winter ...

 

It's like in the summer the land has turned into the temperature of Mercury.

welcome to the maxwells world

 

There appears to have been no consideration of the heat depending on the environment you are in.  If you're living in the swamp it should be cooler because you have all the moisture coming off from the ponds and the mud. 

no, it would be harder than any other land(except badlands) cause of the suffocating and awfully humid and hot atmospheria.

  It's appears to be lethally hot no mattere where you go.  Why can't you take water from the ponds to cool yourself or use the mud to insulate you from the heat?

because you can't.

 

Caves should offer complete insulation from the environment in the summer.  Caves are cool, damp and dark.  The temperature should be pretty much uniform at a certain depth.  But not in the don't starve ROG world. You'll die from the heat down there too.

 

Unless you have a thermal stone, prepared to stack up a crapload of wood and stay next to your endo thermic fire until the next season change. But unless you've stocked up on food you're going to fry and die in the heat if you go foraging.

argh it doesn't make sense... you stockpile for winter? then why you don't stockpile for summer?you said it was the same seasons.

Nothing appears to regrow in the summer.  Everything wilts.

unless you fertilize it...

 

If it's like Mercury outside, why doesn't all the wildlife and monsters die?  Pretty much everything should die, right?

 

 

minor gripe -

 

You can't cook on an endothermic fire - why?

are you really that man or a troll? cause cooking require HEAT!

 

Spring -

 

Is it tsunami season?  I've never seen so much rain in my whole life.

then go to inda during spring and you'll see that don't starve is nice during spring.

 

Rain cooling to such an extreme you can die of hypothermia AND go insane in the process.

 

With all that rain, why can't you collect water to use to cool yourself off in the summer?

cause you'll die boiled unless you take ice...nvm

 

 

I wish there was an option to disable the seasonal climate stuff.  IMO, it's so harsh and unbalanced it's ridiculous.

no, this post is ridiculous...it looks like me at the third playtrough i was doing and discovered winter...

 

[spencer320]

I take it your playing on PS4.  This conversation was almost a rewrite of alot of things since RoG became available on PC.

The new seasons can be brutal but there are a few things to do to help you out.

 

So.... Here's a few things you can do.

 

Build a summer base in the dessert where there aren't many useful flammable things. You'll definitely need an endothermic fire, ice box and a thermal stone. Since you're in the dessert, you can find plenty of cactus. Pick those and get the cactus flower which will enable you to build a summer shirt. The frest I think, that, along with a straw hat and chilled thermal stone will make you cool like a cucumber. Better to have 2 thermal stones so you can swap out as needed.

 

You can't cook on a endothermic fire cause it cools... not heats. I still forget and get irked from time to time!

Caves have been nerfed slightly but still offer no escape from the spring rain, summer heat, or winter cold. Devs didn't want people to turtle up in the caves to bypass the seasons, which, I agree with.

 

Spring is a different beast, but you can build a umbrella until you find a swamp and get some tentacle spots. Once you have the spots you can make a rain coat, which will give you 100% protection from the rain. Make sure when it rains really heavy to leave your base, but stay away from Beefalo during the first couple of Spring Heavy rains.

 

When you find a touchstone, I'm sure you used to leave prep gear there for a winter revive? Continue to do that but just add summer gear too.

 

Once you get used to the changes you'll find they aren't that bad, just have to learn how to best to survive like you did in Vanilla Winter.

 

[angrysquirrel]

spencer320 thank you for that helpful response.

orian34 you're a jerk. 

[Spyro1]

The new seasonal challenges in ROG just make the game more frustrating and create more busy work. 

 

Here's my gripes. 

 

Sum - it feels like Klei took the seasonal environment changees to the extreme with ROG and made the game more frustrating rather than fun.

 

Summer -

 

You HAVE to build a flingomatic or your base WILL catch on fire. If you didn't get the ice in the season that it's available then say goodbye to your base (it's not around in summer unless you like puddles).

 

Well, I guess you could build like 10 endothermic firepits all around your base and run around keeping them lit so you base can be cool.  But then you'd spend your time cutting down enough trees the size of washington state to keep them running.  Then you'd run out of fint / gold for your axes and you'd die.  At least you got that busy work though instead of having fun.

 

You WILL DIE if there's no tree placement to get around from one spot to another.  Unless of course you cold stone is sufficiently cold enough to get from one spot to another.  Basically, it's a reverse winter.

 

It's like in the summer the land has turned into the temperature of Mercury.

 

There appears to have been no consideration of the heat depending on the environment you are in.  If you're living in the swamp it should be cooler because you have all the moisture coming off from the ponds and the mud.  It's appears to be lethally hot no mattere where you go.  Why can't you take water from the ponds to cool yourself or use the mud to insulate you from the heat?

 

Caves should offer complete insulation from the environment in the summer.  Caves are cool, damp and dark.  The temperature should be pretty much uniform at a certain depth.  But not in the don't starve ROG world. You'll die from the heat down there too.

 

Unless you have a thermal stone, prepared to stack up a crapload of wood and stay next to your endo thermic fire until the next season change. But unless you've stocked up on food you're going to fry and die in the heat if you go foraging.

 

Nothing appears to regrow in the summer.  Everything wilts.

 

If it's like Mercury outside, why doesn't all the wildlife and monsters die?  Pretty much everything should die, right?

 

 

minor gripe -

 

You can't cook on an endothermic fire - why?

 

Spring -

 

Is it tsunami season?  I've never seen so much rain in my whole life.

 

Rain cooling to such an extreme you can die of hypothermia AND go insane in the process.

 

With all that rain, why can't you collect water to use to cool yourself off in the summer?

 

 

I wish there was an option to disable the seasonal climate stuff.  IMO, it's so harsh and unbalanced it's ridiculous.

 If your anything in our base is about to catch fire you can take rot, manure, bucket-o-poop or ice to put it out. It very clearly shows when something is about to catch fire you just need to be on the lookout when around your base. Things will only catch fire that are on your screen in other words if you dont have a flingomatic near your berry bushes, grass turfs etc. Stay away from them.

 

Also endothermic fire pits I believe dont help when it comes to cooling down your base. I have a couple of chests right next to my endothermic fire pit and occasionally they start to smoulder even at night when my endothermic fire pit is on full blast.

 

If you dont have manure or rot etc you can also put it out with your bear hands at the cost of 5 damage. Things will only smoulder about once every 2 min so its not too difficult to deal with if you dont have flingomatics so long as you are observant and keep and try avoiding combustible clustered structures.

 

there are many ways to avoid overheating. By far the easiest is obtaining snow chester and building 2 thermal stones. Put one in him and keep one on yourself (also make sure it is not in your backpack slots but in your inventory slots.) when the one stone gets too hot replace it with the cold  one in chester. You literally will never overheat this way as long as you keep swapping them. Build a fridge and keep ice that you collected in it.

 

For spring just build an umbrella and basically problem solved. If you can later on build the eyebrella and spring wont be an issue.

 

On a side note I completely agree with being in caves/ruins, it should not be possible to overheat in them. I have been in temperatures of 40+ degrees Celsius then proceeding to go into a cave (the kango caves in South Africa for any of you who are maybe familiar with it) and once you are underground its completely cool you dont feel the heat at all.

[angrysquirrel]

Thanks for those tips about the solution to smouldering  Spyro1!  I'm off to Google to find out how to get snow Chester!

 

edit:  found out how to get snow Chester.  Looks like getting blue gems might be some work but it looks well worth it in the end!

[hotmatrixx]

spencer320 thank you for that helpful response. orian34 you're a jerk. 

 

I like that @orian34 liked this.

 

@orian34

I pretty much think your answers are correct, but they came across a bit angry and immature.

[orian34]

yup, i apologize, i wasn't on my bright days :/

[Bohohoh]

I think ROG is very challenging especially if you choose 'Default Plus' mode which I died numerous times for battling against mob for territories. Though I have somehow settled my base, these factors you mentioned is indeed tough to overcome but at least it's more fun now compared to early version of Don't Starve which you can survive so easily.

 

Have fun!

[Palpetinus]

All it ever took me to survive summer is a fridge and two thermal stones. I cannot really get far away from the base except with building endothermic fires, but that is really all it took me. Maybe some trees for shadows but they are everywhere anyway.

 

Two thermal stones because when one is hot I can dump it and flee back to base and pick the other up, which is waiting in the fridge. Or when one is normal/warm and I'm in base I can dump the one and take out the other to not have any waiting times.

 

I never built a flingomatic, heck I didn't even harvest a single bit of ice so far, simply because.. why would I? It's not necessary at all.